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So the Russos said that Thanos hurting his arm balances out murdering half of the universe and I just found out about this? Nobody’s mentioning it? Dudes are actually, literally saying that any inconvenience an oppressor suffers is morally equivalent to mass murder.

Fuck it. That’s it, I’m done. I’ve weathered a lot of shit, but I will be damned if one cent more of any money I’m ever in control of makes its way into their fucking pockets.

Okay, my source wasn’t clear. As it turns out, all they said was that he was “balancing the universe,” and his arm boo-boo is the cost of that. You know, the cost of half the lives in the universe. Like… all those lives on one side of the scale, his arm on the other… ehh, looks even. So… the implication is there, but they didn’t say it outright.

After all, that would require them to actually commit to something.

Wait, what

I am so glad I refused to see the movie because what??

I looked this up myself and oh my g-d, this is actually true

Oh man, you’re gonna be so pissed when you see the part where they describe Thanos, the character they rewrote to buy into Malthusian implicitly-racist bullshit, as being on a “hero’s journey.”

im no comic expert but wasent thanos motive in the comics “is a giant fuckboy that things omincide will impress death into boneing him instead of deadpool” you know the perfect guy to have heroic goals

Yep. Yes he was. And they changed it to the racist bullshit for the sole purpose of “we wanna be different than the comics!” While doing an iconic storyline from the comics.

HEY RUSSOS, WHY WAS WANDA/VISION SO IMPORTANT IN YOUR NOT-LIKE-THE-COMICS MOVIE?

But Thanos is the villain?
I mean, he’s practically a Villain Protagonist here, with how the movie follows him, I suppose in part because they decided that was the best way to balance a movie with so many heroes, but he’s never implied to be right, morally? Hell, I’m pretty sure he’s implied to even be wrong factually about what his actions will accomplish–wasn’t it implied somewhere before that Gamora’s home planet is dead? And weren’t there, like, crashing planes and stuff in the post credits sequence? 

If I read the same source as you (https://www.cbr.com/avengers-infinity-war-russos-thanos-arm/), they never said it was  a fair cost, just that it was a cost. He probably thinks it’s a fair cost, because he thinks he’s doing the whole Hero’s Journey Tough Choices thing, but he’s also a stupid asshole who can only see the rest of the universe as an extension of his own personal experiences with no respect for anyone else’s, and every single character we’ve been expected to find particularly sympathetic is against him, so …

(They still should have probably just kept his comics motive. It’s less stupid in-universe, and a villain who is willing to put his personal feelings over the well being of the entire universe fits better with the rest of the MCU’s themes thematically WAY better than an idiot who thinks he’s Making The Hard Choices based on shitty logic and a complete lack of respect for anyone else’s agency.)

You’re giving them way too much credit here. Like, Thanos isn’t the one who thinks he’s on a hero’s journey – that’s literally a Russo quote. They’re the ones who think that. They are explicitly and deliberately portraying him as a sympathetic figure, just a Hard Man Making Hard Choices for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.

The fact that they made him kinda dumb and wildly inconsistent is… well, it’s just lazy writing from the same people who never bothered noticing that Dr. Strange’s characterization had shifted away from “I wanna be Tony Stark but I’m a worse person in literally every conceivable way” by the end of his movie, the same people who thought that Wakanda – an African nation with the most advanced technology on the planet – would fight for the survival of all of reality by charging the bad guys with spears even though their weapons have already been established as having blasters. (Go ahead, find an explanation for that that isn’t some combination of “lazy writing” and “racism.” I’ll wait.)

Thanos being poorly written is frankly expected given that kind of context. What’s boggling is that anybody got a good character beat at all.

A big part of the problem is how they did it, yeah. Like…I have zero interest in Thanos as a character so I was never excited about him essentially being the protagonist, but it could have worked. Instead they fell all over themselves trying to humanize Thanos in the mistaken belief that they were making him a better villain, and they did that first by giving him a worldview that is disturbingly fucking close to real worldviews that harm real people…AND THEN THEY NEVER LET ANYONE CALL HIM OUT ON HIS BULLSHIT.

I mean, obviously, he’s supposed to be the Big Bad, we’re supposed to take that as a given. But if you want to make somebody like Thanos understandable without backing off the evil, you can’t just figure it’s self-evident that he’s a bad guy when the movie itself validates his point of view. He tells Gamora her planet is a paradise now because he wiped out half the population (which is a lazy retcon for new characterization in the first place, given that GotG included Gamora’s rap sheet explicitly calling her the last survivor of her race), and…apparently, we’re all supposed to accept that. None of the good guys are given the opportunity to contradict him. You can’t depend on the directors’ commentary to clarify that oh yeah, of course he’s a bad dude and of course he’s wrong, his driving purpose isn’t really altruism but his fucked-up savior complex without actually pointing that out in the movie. This is not the sort of thing where you can just assume audiences are smart and they’ll get it, because a) they’re not going to get it if you didn’t do the work and b) there are already loads of people who will say “well you gotta admit, Thanos had a point” unless you actually show that no he fucking didn’t.